Israel has proposed leaving intact dozens of Jewish settlements and military bases in the West Bank as part of a package to establish a Palestinian state in provisional borders, a Palestinian official told The Associated Press on Wednesday, in the first detailed glimpse at recently relaunched peace talks.
The official said the proposal is unacceptable to the Palestinians, underscoring the tough road ahead as the sides try to reach an agreement ending decades of conflict.
Surprise surprise
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because Israel and the Palestinians have pledged to US 'appeaser overseer' Secretary of State John Kerry not to discuss the content of their talks with the media -- a pledge that has largely held up until now.
Obviously this US 'appeaser overseer' wants to vet anything to be aired in case it upsets his and his governments image rather than upsetting anything that might harm Israeli interests.
For their so-called future state, the Palestinians seek the whole West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza Strip, territories liberated by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war, NOT OCCUPIED as the western media likes to refer to it.
With Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu opposed to a return to the pre-1967 lines, the idea of a Palestinian state in temporary borders has gained appeal with some Israelis, Israelis who are either just politically naive or liberal left Israelis who are willing to sell Israel to the enemy at the price of enhancing their own image and thus contributing to the destruction of the Jewish State.
Its reported that such 'a deal' could give the so-called Palestinians independence, while leaving the thorniest issues, such as the fate of Jerusalem and the status of millions of Palestinian refugees and their descendants, to later negotiations.
Yes we bet it does, because no sooner will this so called deal be struck then the PA will be then hammering on about 'Jerusalem and these so-called refugees, who are in reality political pawns thrown into Israel and used by Hamas and the PA as tools to manoeuvre, be used as leverage for yet another 'slice of the cake'
The Palestinians reject any notion of a provisional agreement, fearing that a temporary arrangement that falls short of their dreams will become permanent.
In other words its our way or no way and the violence continues.
Talks resumed in late July after a nearly five-year break stemming largely from Israeli settlement construction, which despite this being an Israeli issue, seemed to bother the US appeasers in charge more.
The Palestinians have objected to Israeli construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, which is predictably the normal action from them. They say these settlements, now home to more than 500,000 Israelis, make it increasingly difficult to partition the land between two people.
But they don't seem to mind literally 'millions' of non Israeli Arab refugees flooding into these areas, well they wouldn't would they?
After months of US mediation, the Palestinians agreed to resume talks. Although Israel rightly did not pledge to freeze settlement construction, US officials have said they expect both sides to avoid provocative moves. Negotiators have been quietly meeting once or twice a week for the past month or so.
Nice to know the US has Israel's interests so close to their hearts.
The Palestinian official said formal talks on borders have not yet started, and that negotiations have focused on security matters. He said the Israelis want to retain control of the West Bank's border with Jordan, keep early-warning stations on hilltops, and retain military bases near the Jordanian border.
Obviously this is unacceptable that Israel is concerned for its own security.
"Israel is using the issue of security to take land," he said. "From the general discussions we had in the last couple of weeks, the Israelis have shown no intention to dismantle any settlement." He said the current proposals indicated that Israel would seek to retain control over about 40% of the West Bank.
Is this Palestinian official on drugs?
Of course Israel is concerned about security - it's surrounded by nations that want to wipe Israel off the map and its flooded with refugees who are put there by these hateful nations in an attempt to destroy Israel from within.
'Not seeking a ceremony'
In the previous round of talks, conducted in 2008 under then-Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Israel offered to withdraw from roughly 94 percent of the West Bank, and compensate the Palestinians with the equivalent of 6 percent through a "land swap" that would allow Israel to keep major settlements. Olmert also proposed international administration of Jerusalem's holy sites.
The official said the Palestinians have proposed resuming peace talks from the point they broke off. Netanyahu has said he is not obligated to accept Olmert's proposals and rightly so.
94 percent of the West Bank? land swap?
This is Jewish land we are talking about. This is Israel's security.
A senior Israeli official refused comment on the Israeli proposal, citing the commitment to keep the talks secret.
"It was agreed between the sides that all public discussion about the negotiations would be through the Americans," the Israeli official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media about the issue.
Netanyahu's office declined comment, citing the pledge not to discuss the negotiations in public. Likewise, there was no immediate US comment.
In a statement released for the Jewish new year holiday that began Wednesday evening, Netanyahu said he hoped the talks would succeed.
"We seek to advance peace with the Palestinians while maintaining our security and ensuring that the peace will be a real and enduring peace. Not a ceremony, not an agreement that we celebrate for two minutes and then collapse," the statement said. "We want a real, genuine and enduring peace and this must be anchored in recognition of Israel as a Jewish state and in our security. This is what ultimately is needed."
These are sincere words from a sincere man, but sadly it's not what the PA want
Or what Hamas wants!
The PA urged the US to put pressure on Israel. Otherwise, it said, "there will be no progress."
So there we have it. It's our way or no way and their way is for Israel to be destroyed and all these silly peace negotiations are simply a stepping stone to that ultimate goal.
Earlier Wednesday, Israeli police arrested seven Palestinians after clashes between stone-throwing demonstrators and Israeli security forces in Jerusalem's Old City.
Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the clashes erupted when about 300 Palestinians tried to block a group of visitors from reaching a sensitive hilltop compound. He says masked demonstrators began to throw stones, prompting security forces to move in.
This is what these peace negotiations bring, discontent among Israelis and a taste of victory for the hate-filled rioters carrying the rocks.
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